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Question About Spousal Exemption from Work Permit Exemption

mtgmike

I'm trying to get paperwork set up properly in compliance with Vietnamese labor laws to do work for my wife's company. We are using a paid service to submit the application to the government.


At the bottom of this message I've posted some Vietnamese instructions I have and a translation from Google.


There are two steps we need to complete. First, my wife's company needs to get permission to be able to hire foreign employees at all. We finished that step. Second, my wife's company must notify the Department of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs at least 3 days before the work start date with the following information about the employee:"- First and last name;- Years old;- Nationality;- Passport;- Employer's name;- Work start and end date."


My understanding is spouses of Vietnamese nationals are not only exempt from the work permit, but they are not required to get the work permit exemption either. The only requirements I can find are what I alluded to already, sending notice to the DoL of xy and z.


We are running into problems with the paid service on the second step. They said the government office now wants health checks. I asked where this requirement is posted, they told me the governemnt office makes this request verbally with them, it's not posted anywhere.


During my previous employment elsewhere I was also required to get a health check.


Has anyone completed this process? Could you please share your own experience?



Thank you.



"Dossier of application for certification of free work permit

Pursuant to the provisions of Clause 3, Article 8 of Decree 152/2020/ND-CP, the required documents to request a resolution to confirm the free attribute of a work permit include:


(1) A written request for certification of papers not falling within the competence to issue a work permit, made according to Form No. 09/PLI, Appendix I of this Decree.


(2) Certified copy of valid passport.


(3) Certificate or Medical Examination Certificate from a foreign or Vietnamese medical facility, provided within 12 months, up to the time of the preliminary application.


(4) Written consent upon request for foreign use except in cases not specified as such.


(5) Papers to prove management are not subject to licensing.


Note, document types (3), (4) and (5) must be updated with the original or a certified copy. Schools issued by institutions with foreign degrees must be legalized, translated into Vietnamese and have proof


2. Order and procedures for certification

Pursuant to account 1, account 2 and account 5, Article 8 of Decree 152/2020/ND-CP, the deliberation procedure for certification of work permit exemption shall be conducted in the following order:


- The employer's application file is certified at the Department of Labor, Invalids and Social Affairs at least 10 days before the expected time the employee starts working. Except in cases where only reports are required.


- Within 05 working days from the time of receiving the complete application, the receiving agency shall issue a written confirmation that the employee is not eligible for a work permit (hereinafter referred to as the confirmation document).


- The maximum duration of the written certification shall not exceed 2 years.


3. Cases that do not have to undergo certification procedures but only need to be reported to the Department of Labor, Invalids and Social Affairs

Zone 2, Article 8 of Decree 152/2020/ND-CP stipulates a number of the following reasonable cases where the application for certification is not required but only needs to be reported to the Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs:


- Entering Vietnam with a term of less than 3 months to make a service offering.


- Being a foreign lawyer who has been granted a license to practice law in Vietnam.


- Foreigners marrying Vietnamese and living in Vietnamese territory.


- Being the owner or capital contributor of a limited company with contributed capital of 3 billion VND or more.


- Being the Chairman or member of the Board of Directors of a joint-stock company with a contributed capital of 3 billion VND or more.


- Working in the position of a manager, executive director, expert or technical worker for less than 30 days and no more than 03 times in a year.


- Relatives of members of foreign representative offices in Vietnam.


At least 03 days before the expected time the employee enters the job, the employer must notify the Department of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs the following information about the employee:


- First and last name;


- Year old;


- Nationality;


- Passport;


- Employer's name;


- Work start and end date."




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Cn c廙 theo quy 廙nh t廕【 kho廕τ 3 i廙u 8 Ngh廙 廙nh 152/2020/N-CP, nh廙疸g ti li廙u c廕吵 c籀 廙 廙 ngh廙 x獺c nh廕要 thu廙c di廙n が廙θ mi廙n GPL bao g廙m:


(1) Gi廕句 廙 ngh廙 x獺c nh廕要 NL kh繫ng thu廙c di廙n c廕叼 GPL theo M廕哎 s廙 09/PLI Ph廙 l廙卉 I Ngh廙 廙nh ny.


(2) B廕τ sao c籀 ch廙姊g th廙帷 h廙 chi廕簑 c簷n th廙i h廕》.


(3) Gi廕句 ch廙姊g nh廕要 ho廕搾 Gi廕句 kh獺m s廙妾 kh廙e do cヾ s廙 y t廕 c廙吧 nが廙c ngoi ho廕搾 Vi廙t Nam c廕叼 trong v簷ng 12 th獺ng, t穩nh 廕積 th廙i i廙m n廙p h廙 sヾ.


(4) Vn b廕τ ch廕叼 thu廕要 nhu c廕吟 s廙 d廙叩g NL nが廙c ngoi tr廙 nh廙疸g trが廙ng h廙φ kh繫ng ph廕ξ x獺c 廙nh nhu c廕吟 ny.


(5) C獺c gi廕句 t廙 廙 ch廙姊g minh NL kh繫ng thu廙c trが廙ng h廙φ ph廕ξ c廕叼 gi廕句 ph矇p.


Lがu 羸, c獺c lo廕【 ti li廙u (3), (4) v (5) ph廕ξ n廙p b廕τ g廙c ho廕搾 b廕τ sao c籀 ch廙姊g th廙帷. trが廙ng do cヾ quan c籀 th廕姓 quy廙n c廙吧 nが廙c ngoi c廕叼 th穫 ph廕ξ が廙θ h廙φ ph獺p h籀a l瓊nh s廙, d廙ch ra ti廕積g Vi廙t v c籀 ch廙姊g th廙帷


2. Tr穫nh t廙, th廙 t廙卉 廙 ngh廙 x獺c nh廕要

Cn c廙 theo kho廕τ 1, kho廕τ 2 v kho廕τ 5 i廙u 8 Ngh廙 廙nh 152/2020/N-CP, th廙 t廙卉 廙 ngh廙 x獺c nh廕要 が廙θ mi廙n GPL ti廕積 hnh theo tr穫nh t廙 sau 璽y:


- Ngが廙i s廙 d廙叩g lao 廙ng n廙p h廙 sヾ 廙 ngh廙 x獺c nh廕要 t廕【 S廙 Lao 廙ng, Thがヾng binh v X瓊 h廙i trが廙c th廙i i廙m d廙 ki廕積 NL b廕眩 廕吟 lm vi廙c t廙i thi廙u 10 ngy. Tr廙 nh廙疸g trが廙ng h廙φ ch廙 c廕吵 b獺o c獺o.


- Trong v簷ng 05 ngy lm vi廙c, k廙 t廙 th廙i i廙m nh廕要 廙 h廙 sヾ, cヾ quan ti廕穆 nh廕要 c籀 vn b廕τ x獺c nh廕要 NL kh繫ng thu廙c di廙n c廕叼 GPL (g廙i t廕眩 l Vn b廕τ x獺c nh廕要).


- Th廙i h廕》 c廙吧 Vn b廕τ x獺c nh廕要 t廙i a kh繫ng qu獺 02 nm.


3. Nh廙疸g trが廙ng h廙φ kh繫ng ph廕ξ lm th廙 t廙卉 x獺c nh廕要 m ch廙 c廕吵 b獺o c獺o cho S廙 Lao 廙ng, Thがヾng binh v X瓊 h廙i

Kho廕τ 2 i廙u 8 Ngh廙 廙nh 152/2020/N-CP quy 廙nh m廙t s廙 trが廙ng h廙φ sau 璽y kh繫ng ph廕ξ n廙p h廙 sヾ xin x獺c nh廕要 m ch廙 c廕吵 b獺o c獺o cho S廙 LTBXH:


- Vo Vi廙t Nam v廙i th廙i h廕》 dが廙i 03 th獺ng 廙 th廙帷 hi廙n cho b獺n d廙ch v廙.


- L lu廕負 sが nが廙c ngoi 瓊 が廙θ c廕叼 Gi廕句 ph矇p hnh ngh廙 lu廕負 sが t廕【 Vi廙t Nam.


- Ngが廙i nが廙c ngoi k廕篙 h繫n v廙i ngが廙i Vi廙t Nam v sinh s廙ng tr礙n l瓊nh th廙 Vi廙t Nam.


- L ch廙 s廙 h廙真 ho廕搾 thnh vi礙n g籀p v廙n c廙吧 c繫ng ty TNHH v廙i v廙n g籀p t廙 3 t廙 廙ng tr廙 l礙n.


- L Ch廙 t廙ch ho廕搾 thnh vi礙n HQT c廙吧 c繫ng ty c廙 ph廕吵 v廙i v廙n g籀p t廙 3 t廙 廙ng tr廙 l礙n.


- Lm vi廙c t廕【 v廙 tr穩 nh qu廕τ l羸, gi獺m 廙c i廙u hnh, chuy礙n gia ho廕搾 lao 廙ng k廙 thu廕負 c籀 th廙i gian lm vi廙c dが廙i 30 ngy v kh繫ng qu獺 03 l廕吵 trong 01 nm.


- Th璽n nh璽n thnh vi礙n cヾ quan 廕【 di廙n nが廙c ngoi t廕【 Vi廙t Nam.



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- H廙 v t礙n


;

- Tu廙i;


- Qu廙c t廙


ch;

- S廙 h廙 chi廕


u;

- T礙n ngが廙i s廙 d廙叩g lao 廙ng;

- Ngy b廕眩 廕吟 v ngy k廕篙 th繳c lm vi廙c."

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OceanBeach92107

Hi Mike!


Such a shame this is so complicated.


I honestly don't know irrefutable answers to your questions, but based upon the general understanding that I had previously, I'm wondering two things:


1. If your wife's business isn't too large (I don't know what "too large" is) did you consider going into the local police station to find out what they would require?


Somewhere back in the forum I seem to recall someone saying that's what what they needed to do to get permission to take a certain job in a situation such as yours.


I'm pretty sure that thread was created after the law was changed easing the restrictions for foreign spouses here on TRCs.


2. How old are you?


Not really any of my business but I'm wondering if age played a factor in requiring the health check.


Thanks for starting such a great and concise thread.


Hopefully it will someday evolve into a sticky thread on this subject.


Cheers!


O.B.

ajairon

@mtgmike hello, what I understood about your question: Your wife is a vietnamese citizen and you want to work in the sam company with her. If that is your case, to work is not complicated. As a husband of a vietnamese citizen you are a member of a Viet Family and Vietnam will also protect you.


Fact: "To be exempted of WP" is not the same as "Not to be requested for WP". Companies only need to notify you will work with them.


Fact: You must live in a stable and long term in Vietnam, so if you are still using a Tourist Visa or VEC you cannot work here. This means you need at least a Visa for 6 months or TRC or PRC.


Some official info:


This another one is not official but real:


With these precedents, You only need:


1)to fill out the FORM 09/PL1 (this is the notification)

2)The request to employe a foreigner

3)Notarized copies by a vietnamese notary (and no more than 3 months since notarized) of:

- Company license registration

- Your passport (all pages)

- Marriage certificate (issued in Vietnam, right?)

- Your wife's citizen ID (the new one)

- 2 pictures 3x6

The Health Certification is not required, but in case it is nice to have, quite easy and fast (2 hours) to get from a Hospital (Samples of blood, pee, poop, eyes, lungs xrays, teeth, ultrasound of kidneys, stomach and liver)