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Declaring fatherhood for unmarried couple?

Vitamin_E

We are a German-Vietnamese couple with a daughter, but we aren't legally married. Now we would like to declare fatherhood so that our daughter can get a German passport. A government office told us that this can only be done if we are married. Still, I have trouble accepting this answer as definite. How can it be that all kids of unmarried couples will be denied a father? Or is this possibly a rule applying only to foreigners?

Does anyone have information about this?

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Guest2023

Vitamin_E wrote:

We are a German-Vietnamese couple with a daughter, but we aren't legally married. Now we would like to declare fatherhood so that our daughter can get a German passport. A government office told us that this can only be done if we are married. Still, I have trouble accepting this answer as definite. How can it be that all kids of unmarried couples will be denied a father? Or is this possibly a rule applying only to foreigners?

Does anyone have information about this?


Contact your consulate they are the ones issuing the passport, not VN.

IvanSng

i have no idea if its different for different foreginer, but we did in at people's committee district xxx. which office you need to go depend on your wife family book registered address. of course there is some of procedure u need to clear like DNA test, translation and notarisation.

Vitamin_E

@colinoscapee:
Of course, they said we should first declare fatherhood in Vietnam.

Vitamin_E

IvanSng wrote:

i have no idea if its different for different foreginer, but we did in at people's committee district xxx. which office you need to go depend on your wife family book registered address. of course there is some of procedure u need to clear like DNA test, translation and notarisation.


Are you married though? My problem comes from that we are not married.

pogiwayne

Vitamin_E wrote:

We are a German-Vietnamese couple with a daughter, but we aren't legally married. Now we would like to declare fatherhood so that our daughter can get a German passport. A government office told us that this can only be done if we are married. Still, I have trouble accepting this answer as definite. How can it be that all kids of unmarried couples will be denied a father? Or is this possibly a rule applying only to foreigners?

Does anyone have information about this?


Check with the German Embassy for directions. Did you register the child’s birth with the Embassy?

Guest2023

Are you on the childs birth certificate?

Guest2023

Vitamin_E wrote:

@colinoscapee:
Of course, they said we should first declare fatherhood in Vietnam.


Yes, but did they tell you how. It sounds like you need to do a DNA test.
Do you want to take your daughter to Germany or just get a passport?

IvanSng

We are not married thats why i am replying to your issued, anyway your embassy cant help your situation. At least thats what i went through.

Guest2023

My friend who is in the same situation and got his son a passport said you need to apply for a CRBA, consular report of birth abroad.

Gogo888

I’m British and not married with my VN partner but was able to get a  British passport for my son quite easily after we had processed his Vietnamese passport first which was more difficult and complicated. You will need to do a DNA test, some police papers and some other documents with your partners home province government office.

Vitamin_E

colinoscapee wrote:

Are you on the childs birth certificate?


No, that couldn't be done for the same reason. If I were, I think I wouldn't need to declare fatherhood anymore.

Vitamin_E

IvanSng wrote:

We are not married thats why i am replying to your issued, anyway your embassy cant help your situation. At least thats what i went through.


Ok, thank you for your report. I think I will indeed talk again to the consulate and ask them what to do if we cannot easily declare fatherhood in Vietnam. You are right, they should know what to do.

Vitamin_E

Gogo888 wrote:

I’m British and not married with my VN partner but was able to get a  British passport for my son quite easily after we had processed his Vietnamese passport first which was more difficult and complicated. You will need to do a DNA test, some police papers and some other documents with your partners home province government office.


Ok, thanks. Probably it's similar for Germany, I will talk again with the consulate.

Guest2023

Vitamin_E wrote:
colinoscapee wrote:

Are you on the childs birth certificate?


No, that couldn't be done for the same reason. If I were, I think I wouldn't need to declare fatherhood anymore.


It sounds like your embassy is not being overly helpful.

Gryzio

If marriage is a problem,  a man can adopt your daughter,. Perhaps procedure is easier. :))

IvanSng

hahaha lazy to commend but you are right haha