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HELP! Dataflow is NEGATIVE!

Camzii07

Hi, I would like to seek advice from the forum on what to do regarding this issue.

I submitted a fake employment certificate for dataflow verification back in 2016 for my SC license renewal. Because I had a working gap of 3 years back then, I was advised by Saudi Council to present a recent employment certificate to renew my license. Otherwise, I will be sent home and will be required to take a training or additional working experience. Since I had financial problems back home during that time, I decided to take the risk and submit that fake certificate.

I was able to renew my license but was constantly worried about that dataflow report especially since the dataflow company did not give me any copy of the report and told me to inquire through Saudi council. I inquired the Saudi Council office many times and was repeatedly told that they did not have the report. I inquired both Dataflow and Saudi Council many times but to no avail. So, I thought that the report was fine since my license was already renewed. I finished my contract with my previous employer in 2017 without any problems.

Currently, I received an offer by another employer and was required to undergo another dataflow verification since some of my documents were not included in the previous one. So, I submitted my documents and had the report after a month. Unfortunately, they traced my previous PSV report including the fake employment certificate. I checked my saudi council validity online to see if I am blacklisted since I've heard from other workers that their licenses were canceled and put on a blacklist in the saudi council website due to fake certificates. But upon checking, my license is still valid until 2019.

Now, I am in a dilemma. Should I take the risk and pursue this application given that there's no sign of me being blacklisted/banned? Does anyone know what MOH or Saudi Council's process is in dealing with these cases? Does anyone think they can still find out about that report even though 2 years have passed?

I hope someone can enlighten me on this issue especially those with the same experiences or issues as mine. It will be deeply appreciated. Thank you.

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nawawala

same case here.. how is ur application now?

jonnaleah

Hi,

They have a way of knowing. When u renew ur license they will check. Its more complicated now than before.

annachristy

How did they know that your certificate was fake?
The employer you mentioned doesnt exist?

IamToni

Like how fake is your COE? Did you include the number of your employer in it?

theheartofsword

hello my friend you already solve your problem?

Chandan87

I don't know how come you have so much guts. If they find you it's a fake, you will be banned to work for your whole lifetime not only in Saudi but all the GCC countries cause data flow is common to all GCC countries. Better hold your tongue and you get the experience. It's not like India or Africa where you can slide away or bribe. You will end up in serious trouble you can't even imagine. Even your visa and passport can be blocked for any entry. Arabs always have their superior complexity over others. Even good people from other countries are treated as third class citizens or worse. Don't do such things
I have masters, and had all good papers with skills but belong to a poor family and from a pathetic cursed country. Hence these oil well owning shepherds treated me like shit.i didn't want to work there. I left. At least some poor people worship me here for my service.

pakyaw imman
@Camzii07
hi, does the data flow psv called the employer or the hospital that you have written in your fake coe?
fai24

@Camzii07 Hi.. We're of same case. I hope you can enlighten me of the situation I may face. I also had my data flow wayback 2014 and its discrepancy. Now I want to comeback and make New dataflow. Do you think they will trace my previous dataflow even if its morethan 6 years ago?? Please do help enlighten me...

Iamfai

@fai24 may i know your status? We have the same case also please enlighten me, did you pursue your application?

Iamfai

@Camzii07 hi po we have the same case po.. may i ask when you do your dataflow again you do new application or just additional documents? Hows your status now? Did you pursue your application? T.y

rhaine112002

Hello! please help me same case can u help me what to do please.

Camzii07

My advice to those who have the same case as I had is to get out of KSA as soon as possible because they will find out eventually and get you. I faced a court trial for about a year but was eventually cleared which is why I was allowed to exit legally with the help of an excellent lawyer. If you are planning to go back to KSA, please don't. Or else, you will face the same dilemma.

Geza0

Hello guys kindly help. I submitted my COE to dataflow which was written by my then HR, now the problem comes in now that the directors and HR have bad blood i am now worried. The COEs letter head was hrs, I mean all the documents he rights he uses the same letter head as HR.

When dataflow was doing their verification Administrator stated that the letter is forged just because HR is the one who wrote the letter and he has bad blood with the hospital. Though dataflow results is not yet out, kindly advise

afreenabdulla786

I have 2 years of experience but in my country only graduation certificate was enough to work but here in Saudi they are asking home country license and I have only 5 months of home country license can I go with data flow will I be able to clear it