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TomGiang

Hi, I鈥檓 a US citizen who recently met someone from Vietnam and fell in love with her within 2 years of communication, couple months ago I went to Vietnam for a month to meet her and her whole family. I plan to marry her but can鈥檛 do the paperwork til I go back in July. Now she is currently 18 weeks pregnant and we are not married yet.

I was informed and also read that I can鈥檛 register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. I鈥檓 not sure which is true, my fianc茅 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate. She is due in the first 2 weeks of July. Can someone please help me with this? I鈥檓 currently doing research and finding other with these experiences. She lives in Nha Trang Vietnam.

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twostep

"Was informed" does not say much. Have you contacted the Vietnamese Embassy closest to you and the US Embassy closest to her? Have you contacted an attorney familiar with such cases? Generally initial consultations are free of charge. If Google does not help - try Martindale.com.

Ciambella

TomGiang wrote:

I was informed and also read that I can鈥檛 register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. I鈥檓 not sure which is true, my fianc茅 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate.


As long as you and your fianc茅e (with an extra e, unless your future spouse is a man) officially recognise the child as your 'con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤' (child born out of wedlock), your name can be on the birth certificate.聽 (The term 'con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤' will not be noted on the birth certificate, so no worries that the child will carry a stigma for life.)

This is an excerpt from in Hanoi:

"B岷 v脿 v峄 b岷 ch瓢a 膽膬ng k媒 k岷縯 h么n, tr瓢峄漬g h峄 c峄 b岷 l脿 khai sinh cho con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤, b岷 ph岷 l脿m th峄 t峄 nh岷璶 con. N岷縰 b岷 nh岷璶 膽峄゛ tr岷 l脿 con ru峄檛 c峄 b岷 v脿o th峄漣 膽i峄僲 膽膬ng k媒 khai sinh, th矛 trong gi岷 khai sinh b岷 s岷 膽瓢峄 ghi 膽岷 膽峄 th么ng tin c峄 ng瓢峄漣 cha v脿 m岷."

A law firm in Saigon confirms the answer above:聽

If you need clarification after running those pages through Google Translate, let me know.

TomGiang

Thank you, I will look more into and yes you are eight, fiancee... but auto correct don鈥檛 have that listed.. so as long I agree and she consent that it鈥檚 my baby it鈥檚 okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that I鈥檓 the father but I鈥檓 not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..

TomGiang

I haven鈥檛 checked the embassy since I worked a lot and my time is very limited.. I was told by couple people and also google and everything was different experience.. I will check the website about it... my future spouse was told by her aunts that we need to be married in order for me to be on the baby birth certificate...

TomGiang

Ciambella wrote:
TomGiang wrote:

I was informed and also read that I can’t register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. I’m not sure which is true, my fianc茅 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate.


As long as you and your fianc茅e (with an extra e, unless your future spouse is a man) officially recognise the child as your 'con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤' (child born out of wedlock), your name can be on the birth certificate.  (The term 'con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤' will not be noted on the birth certificate, so no worries that the child will carry a stigma for life.)

This is an excerpt from in Hanoi:

"Bạn v脿 vợ bạn chưa đăng k媒 kết h么n, trường hợp của bạn l脿 khai sinh cho con ngo脿i gi谩 th煤, bạn phải l脿m thủ tục nhận con. Nếu bạn nhận đứa trẻ l脿 con ruột của bạn v脿o thời điểm đăng k媒 khai sinh, th矛 trong giấy khai sinh bạn sẽ được ghi đầy đủ th么ng tin của người cha v脿 mẹ."

A law firm in Saigon confirms the answer above: 

If you need clarification after running those pages through Google Translate, let me know.


Thank you, I will look more into and yes you are eight, fiancee... but auto correct don’t have that listed.. so as long I agree and she consent that it’s my baby it’s okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that I’m the father but I’m not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..

TomGiang

twostep wrote:

"Was informed" does not say much. Have you contacted the Vietnamese Embassy closest to you and the US Embassy closest to her? Have you contacted an attorney familiar with such cases? Generally initial consultations are free of charge. If Google does not help - try Martindale.com.


I haven鈥檛 checked the embassy since I worked a lot and my time is very limited.. I was told by couple people and also google and everything was different experience.. I will check the website about it... my future spouse was told by her aunts that we need to be married in order for me to be on the baby birth certificate...

Ciambella

TomGiang wrote:

so as long I agree and she consent that it鈥檚 my baby it鈥檚 okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that I鈥檓 the father but I鈥檓 not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..


There's a form to fill out for everything including your acknowledgement of the child, but it鈥檚 not complicated.

If you wish for the child to have dual citizenship, I suggest you let him/her be a Vietnamese first.聽 There are several reasons to do so, but as I鈥檓 traveling at the moment, it鈥檚 not possible to explain in detail.

If you check in my activity in 2018, there was a comment in which I wrote at length on dual citizenship and the procedure of naming a child as permissible by VN law.

TomGiang

Ciambella wrote:
TomGiang wrote:

so as long I agree and she consent that it鈥檚 my baby it鈥檚 okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that I鈥檓 the father but I鈥檓 not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..


There's a form to fill out for everything including your acknowledgement of the child, but it鈥檚 not complicated.

If you wish for the child to have dual citizenship, I suggest you let him/her be a Vietnamese first.聽 There are several reasons to do so, but as I鈥檓 traveling at the moment, it鈥檚 not possible to explain in detail.

If you check in my activity in 2018, there was a comment in which I wrote at length on dual citizenship and the procedure of naming a child as permissible by VN law.


Is dual citizenship more complicated? I read that for the child to be a Vietnamese citizens first, would have to register with the mom and her home address? Whichever is easier and I鈥檓 not sure if dual citizenship is even necessary. As long it鈥檚 possible for me to be on his/her birth certificate and for him/her to have a western first name. Also for the us citizenship process to be easier and smoother..