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TomGiang

Hi, Im a US citizen who recently met someone from Vietnam and fell in love with her within 2 years of communication, couple months ago I went to Vietnam for a month to meet her and her whole family. I plan to marry her but cant do the paperwork til I go back in July. Now she is currently 18 weeks pregnant and we are not married yet.

I was informed and also read that I cant register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. Im not sure which is true, my fianc矇 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate. She is due in the first 2 weeks of July. Can someone please help me with this? Im currently doing research and finding other with these experiences. She lives in Nha Trang Vietnam.

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twostep

"Was informed" does not say much. Have you contacted the Vietnamese Embassy closest to you and the US Embassy closest to her? Have you contacted an attorney familiar with such cases? Generally initial consultations are free of charge. If Google does not help - try Martindale.com.

Ciambella

TomGiang wrote:

I was informed and also read that I cant register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. Im not sure which is true, my fianc矇 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate.


As long as you and your fianc矇e (with an extra e, unless your future spouse is a man) officially recognise the child as your 'con ngoi gi獺 th繳' (child born out of wedlock), your name can be on the birth certificate. (The term 'con ngoi gi獺 th繳' will not be noted on the birth certificate, so no worries that the child will carry a stigma for life.)

This is an excerpt from in Hanoi:

"B廕》 v v廙 b廕》 chがa ng k羸 k廕篙 h繫n, trが廙ng h廙φ c廙吧 b廕》 l khai sinh cho con ngoi gi獺 th繳, b廕》 ph廕ξ lm th廙 t廙卉 nh廕要 con. N廕簑 b廕》 nh廕要 廙奄 tr廕 l con ru廙t c廙吧 b廕》 vo th廙i i廙m ng k羸 khai sinh, th穫 trong gi廕句 khai sinh b廕》 s廕 が廙θ ghi 廕囤 廙 th繫ng tin c廙吧 ngが廙i cha v m廕."

A law firm in Saigon confirms the answer above:

If you need clarification after running those pages through Google Translate, let me know.

TomGiang

Thank you, I will look more into and yes you are eight, fiancee... but auto correct dont have that listed.. so as long I agree and she consent that its my baby its okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that Im the father but Im not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..

TomGiang

I havent checked the embassy since I worked a lot and my time is very limited.. I was told by couple people and also google and everything was different experience.. I will check the website about it... my future spouse was told by her aunts that we need to be married in order for me to be on the baby birth certificate...

TomGiang

Ciambella wrote:
TomGiang wrote:

I was informed and also read that I can’t register my name on the child birth certificate unless we are both married while some say that a DNA test is first required. I’m not sure which is true, my fianc矇 told me that we needed to have official marriage papers in order for me to register my name on our child birth certificate.


As long as you and your fianc矇e (with an extra e, unless your future spouse is a man) officially recognise the child as your 'con ngoi gi獺 th繳' (child born out of wedlock), your name can be on the birth certificate.  (The term 'con ngoi gi獺 th繳' will not be noted on the birth certificate, so no worries that the child will carry a stigma for life.)

This is an excerpt from in Hanoi:

"Bạn v vợ bạn chưa đăng k羸 kết h繫n, trường hợp của bạn l khai sinh cho con ngoi gi獺 th繳, bạn phải lm thủ tục nhận con. Nếu bạn nhận đứa trẻ l con ruột của bạn vo thời điểm đăng k羸 khai sinh, th穫 trong giấy khai sinh bạn sẽ được ghi đầy đủ th繫ng tin của người cha v mẹ."

A law firm in Saigon confirms the answer above: 

If you need clarification after running those pages through Google Translate, let me know.


Thank you, I will look more into and yes you are eight, fiancee... but auto correct don’t have that listed.. so as long I agree and she consent that it’s my baby it’s okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that I’m the father but I’m not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..

TomGiang

twostep wrote:

"Was informed" does not say much. Have you contacted the Vietnamese Embassy closest to you and the US Embassy closest to her? Have you contacted an attorney familiar with such cases? Generally initial consultations are free of charge. If Google does not help - try Martindale.com.


I havent checked the embassy since I worked a lot and my time is very limited.. I was told by couple people and also google and everything was different experience.. I will check the website about it... my future spouse was told by her aunts that we need to be married in order for me to be on the baby birth certificate...

Ciambella

TomGiang wrote:

so as long I agree and she consent that its my baby its okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that Im the father but Im not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..


There's a form to fill out for everything including your acknowledgement of the child, but its not complicated.

If you wish for the child to have dual citizenship, I suggest you let him/her be a Vietnamese first. There are several reasons to do so, but as Im traveling at the moment, its not possible to explain in detail.

If you check in my activity in 2018, there was a comment in which I wrote at length on dual citizenship and the procedure of naming a child as permissible by VN law.

TomGiang

Ciambella wrote:
TomGiang wrote:

so as long I agree and she consent that its my baby its okay to have my name on the birth certificate and with proof of my citizenship from the US, that baby can have a western name? Is blood DNA also required? I was told by some that a DNA blood test is required to show proof that Im the father but Im not sure how that all works in Vietnam Nha trang, she will be giving birth at A international hospital..


There's a form to fill out for everything including your acknowledgement of the child, but its not complicated.

If you wish for the child to have dual citizenship, I suggest you let him/her be a Vietnamese first. There are several reasons to do so, but as Im traveling at the moment, its not possible to explain in detail.

If you check in my activity in 2018, there was a comment in which I wrote at length on dual citizenship and the procedure of naming a child as permissible by VN law.


Is dual citizenship more complicated? I read that for the child to be a Vietnamese citizens first, would have to register with the mom and her home address? Whichever is easier and Im not sure if dual citizenship is even necessary. As long its possible for me to be on his/her birth certificate and for him/her to have a western first name. Also for the us citizenship process to be easier and smoother..