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How easy is it to move to Brazil ?

ttocS001

Hi Everyone :)


I’m enquiring how easy it is to move to Brazil and get a residence instead of a visa. I won’t be working there as I have an online business. I’ve been looking into moving to Holland but there’s so many complications and BS with the UK not being in the EU anymore. My intention was to spend 6 months in Rotterdam then in the winter 6 months in Brazil. So with all the complications in Europe right now I just thought, why not just move to Brazil fully. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you and have a great day


Scott

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MA22

@ttocS001

Bom dia Scott!


My understanding is that if you want to come here to work in an online business, you'll need a Digital Nomad Visa for any residency. It is not permanent and will require it to be renewed. I am here on a Retirement Visa, good for two years only, then I will need to renew. I'm sure others will chime in here with more info for you as well.  Boa sorte (good luck)!

ttocS001

Appreciate this thank you. How long is a visiting visa, please?

MA22

Mine is for 2 years. I believe that is the length of time for most or all of these types of Residency visas. Then we need to apply to have them renewed.   

roddiesho

@ttocS001 Bom Día!


  "There is no scarcity of opportunity … for what you love; there's only a scarcity of resolve to make it happen"


  • Wayne Dryer


Brazil is not "Easy", very few countries are, however if it is truly what you want then you have come to the right place. EXPAT.COM has many members with the expertise to get you to Brazil.


Also correct me if I'm wrong but a residency is harder to get than a visa.


To start things off, where in Brazil would you like to come to?


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abthree

04/23/23 @ttocS001. Good morning, Scott. MA22 is correct: your best and easiest way to live in Brazil would be to get a Digital Nomad visa, if you qualify; if you qualify for an Investor Visa, that would also be a viable route. Visa information in English is provided by the Brazilian Consulate General in Amsterdam here:



UK citizens can enter Brazil on a Visa Waiver which does feel like not needing a visa, but it's really just an electronic tourist visa, and it IS tracked. A UK citizen can stay in Brazil as a tourist for up to ninety days, which can be extended for another ninety days by making a request to the Federal Police. The extension is not automatic and must be requested, but is almost always approved. Brits admitted on this basis can stay for a maximum of 180 in every 365 days, so a tad less than six months a year. Overstays are fined at a current rate of R$100/day, to a maximum of R$10,000, and stay on your record. If you don't pay the fine on exit, you can pay on return, and won't be allowed back into the country until you do. Meanwhile, it will be accruing interest.


When the intention is to stay, it's much easier and less complicated to enter Brazil on the right visa in the first place than to try to bootstrap a tourist visa into a different status.


There are a lot of good reasons to choose Brazil, but it's not a very good place for reducing complications in life. This is a monolingual Portuguese-speaking country, and most °µÍø½ûÇøs find the language barrier daunting, especially at first. Every step in setting up a home , from getting a cellphone to renting an apartment to setting up your utilities to getting internet to opening a bank account to finding health care, and any dealings with any level of government are multistep processes conducted in Portuguese. So arrive prepared.


If, by chance, you're a Hasher, HHH is active in Brasília and Rio, so in those cities you'd have a built-in English-speaking network.  Actual running is optional, I understand.

Alstromeria55

Hi. I suggest you go online and also attempt to talk with someone from the Brazilian Consulate. I lived in Oregon and the San Francisco Consulate did nothing but refer me to the Internet. However, I did reach someone on the phone at the the Brazilian Consulate in Los Angeles and he was very helpful. I also found out after getting here that having translations of documents ahead of time was a waste of money because it is required to have it done by certain government employees who put their stamp on it. You will need to get an FBI background check done, have an original birth certificate and an Apostille. At least, I needed the Apostille and the background check because I am from the US.


Good luck. I hope this was helpful and not too confusing.

roddiesho

@ttocS001 Just to piggyback on what @Alstromeria55 said. I am assuming you are a US Citizen now. If so the FBI Background check needs to be done in the US, so it is best to get it done before you come to Brazil. I went to Miami from Brazil for mine and barely was allowed back to Brazil.


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abthree

04/23/23 @ttocS001 Just to piggyback on what @Alstromeria55 said. I am assuming you are a US Citizen now.
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-@roddiesho


British citizen, according to his profile.  But they have their own form of background check and limitations on length of stay, so it's still a good warning.

56tbourne

@Alstromeria55 Where did you live in Oregon Planning on moving to Curitiba in 2025!

rraypo

Hi. I suggest you go online and also attempt to talk with someone from the Brazilian Consulate. I lived in Oregon and the San Francisco Consulate did nothing but refer me to the Internet. However, I did reach someone on the phone at the the Brazilian Consulate in Los Angeles and he was very helpful. I also found out after getting here that having translations of documents ahead of time was a waste of money because it is required to have it done by certain government employees who put their stamp on it. You will need to get an FBI background check done, have an original birth certificate and an Apostille. At least, I needed the Apostille and the background check because I am from the US.
Good luck. I hope this was helpful and not too confusing.
-@Alstromeria55

It always amazes me as to the different experiences we have all had. I too am from Oregen, also going through the SF Consulate at the start of Covid for my VITEM XI Visa. The Consulate people were very helpful and extremely fast. In all, I probably emailed them four-five times, always getting very rapid replies, even twice during weekends. At first, I emailed them asking for infomation receiving replies within hours, professionally with a complete list of what was required. Although I am originally from Iceland, they did not request translations or any apostilled documents, not even of my birth certificate which is handwritten in Icelandic. My US immigration and citizenship is through the US State Department not USCIS like most immigrants, so that should have complicated things, but it seemed not. For my background check, after filling out the online FBI document, I went to the Wilsonville OR USPS for my biometrics which took like 10 minutes tops. After paying the USPS, I had my completed FBI background check in my email before I even left the Post Office building. I sent may document package to the Consulate overnight and had it back from them quickly, with my Visa in my passport.

I found the VITEM XI process through the SF Consulate very straightforward and fast.

sprealestatebroker

Being a Britt, your English will get you farther in the Rio-Sao Paulo axis , with surrounding communities added in, and in between. 


Paradisiac beach side places , or the hinterland. will not facilitate your assimilation due to language barriers, and actually being part of the digital community. 


Meaning going about  contracting , office space to lease,  hosting services, competent legal help, coders, accountants, (although you can also get it abundantly sourced in Blumenau,SC, Campinas-SP, Sao Jose dos Campos-SP). Your odds become  better in putting it together in Sao Paulo first, Rio second.


The immigration bureaucratic issues, it's all known, you will  need to parse and read the threads in this forum.  No point in repeating what has been posted ad nauseum.


Take it  this way...  Higher barrier to entry, means that the unsavory get cast away. And your living costs simply do not explode, due to  any massive migration to Brazil, as the floodgates would be wide open.


You might experience a little higher cost to settle in, but once you past that stage, you will be able to find more value oriented choices for living acomodations, build an useful network of locals. etc.

Alstromeria55

@56tbourne Hi. I lived in both Salem and Portland. My family moved to Oregon in 1971. I graduated from high school and college in Salem, lived out of the country for sometime and moved back to Oregon in 1986. I lived in the Portland area from 1989 until March of this year.