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Marriage necessary for a permanent visa?

Kurterino

A friend of mine owns a house and has been coming here for over 20 years, until the pandemic he usually stayed 6 months at a time (3 months plus 3 months extension), which was ok for him, because thats just about the duration of the Swiss winter. Obviously during the pandemic, they didnt grant extensions anymore, so he had to leave Brazil for 30 days before coming back, effectively doubling his airfare. During that time he pondered marrying his long-term girlfriend to get a permanent visa. Theyve been together for over 10 years (maybe even 15), and she would probably be up for it. However, I have read it here that partners of Brazilians can get something like a reunification visa. Is that as good as a husbands visa, and is it as easy (or difficult) to obtain?

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Peter Itamaraca

@Kurterino I am a bit confused by your statement to the effect that your friend had a tourist visa, was not given an extension, but was allowed to leave for 30 days then return during the pandemic. My experience was that all tourist visas were extended automatically during the pandemic as most air routes were closed.... But that is not your question.


I have been asked before if it is possible to get a family reunion visa without being married, and the legal advice I have received is that yes, it is possible, but quite hard. It is necessary to prove longevity and permanency of the relationship, such as joint bank accounts, utility bills and property in both names, witness statements, joint travels, photos, etc, etc.


The long and short of it is that it is probably much easier just to get married...!

abthree

06/28/23 I have read it here that partners of Brazilians can get something like a reunification visa. Is that as good as a husbands visa, and is it as easy (or difficult) to obtain?
-@Kurterino


The Pol穩cia Federal tend to look askance at a uni瓊o est獺vel as a basis for reuni瓊o familiar since it's often a pretty transparent attempt to game the system, but in your friend's case it should be acceptable given the length of the relationship, if they legalize it at a cart籀rio first, A marriage would be even more bulletproof, but a cart籀rio uni瓊o est獺vel should work. Here are the requirements:



Several caveats:

  • Both partners have to be legally able to marry, even though it's not a marriage. They'll have to provide proof of the legal termination of any prior marriages.
  • They'll have to agree on a "regime de bens", a distribution of assets, as if they were marrying.
  • They should start the process as soon as possible after your friend's arrival, because most cart籀rios impose a waiting period of up to 30 days, and he wants to be out of the cart籀rio and submitting his residency application to the Pol穩cia Federal well before his visa expires.
  • Proxy commitments are NOT acceptable for residency: both partners must be physically present at the ceremony.


He'll need apostilles and Sworn Translations for all of his documents, just as he will for the Pol穩cia Federal. The cart籀rio documents are really a subset of the ones he'll need to apply for residency, so it's a good idea to have a set for each, and to arrive in Brazil fully prepared.


His partner should confirm the cart籀rio's practices and availability ahead of time; they may be flexible on some things, like the waiting period. And as always, she should go to the Pol穩cia Federal with him for his interview.

Golsucks

To me its like a common law agreement. In the end; under laws in Brazil Canada and probably Switzerland, your in for a 50:50 split if things dont work out.

Peter Itamaraca

@Golsucks Depends on which regime de bens they agree on. There are 3 options in Brazil, but it also depends on age as older partners can only use one with younger partners, for example

Peter Itamaraca

@Golsucks Just to clarify, they are:

1/ everything before, during and after the marriage is split equally

2/ everything before the mariage is kept separately, but during and after the marriage it is split equally

3/ everything always remains separate - before, during and after the marriage

abthree

06/28/23 @Golsucks Depends on which regime de bens they agree on. There are 3 options in Brazil, but it also depends on age as older partners can only use one with younger partners, for example
-@Peter Itamaraca


That's correct. The options, and the limitations on each, are provided a few levels down in the link I included above.

timhoffnagle

If they have been together for that long, a legal stable union (aka, "civil union") may be the way to go. That's what I did and you can set it up like a marriage with a prenuptial agreement, where you can define the finances and property from everything is shared to her's is her's and his is his or anything in between. An attorney can do it for R$5,000.

sprealestatebroker

Marriage validates your cohabitation arrangement. Therefore legit before the Brazilian Judiciary.


For your acquired property's sake, if you bought your property before you got together, you need to propose her a "Casamento com separacao de bens" which might be a tricky proposition with the other half. That's the pre-nuptial agreement.


Granted, if the other half becomes a survivor, then, all fairness, it makes her/him an natural heir ( tax exempt meador ).