Obtaining a registration certificate as a freelancer
Hello all,
I'm a Norwegian citizen who recently moved to Budapest to live with my partner (non-EU citizen with work permit).
As I'm approaching 90 days, I'm planning to apply for a registration certificate through the enterhungary website, and I'm unsure which purpose to indicate in my application. All the information I've found online about registration as an EU/EEA national is somewhat ambiguous.
I do freelance work for various companies outside of Hungary, and own a sole proprietorship in Norway (I might consider registering as self employed here in the future). Can I apply for the "other" category, and in that case, what should I provide as "Documents for proof of purpose"? Or would it be better to register as a job seeker?
Any advice would be highly appreciated
Hello all,I'm a Norwegian citizen who recently moved to Budapest to live with my partner (non-EU citizen with work permit).As I'm approaching 90 days, I'm planning to apply for a registration certificate through the enterhungary website, and I'm unsure which purpose to indicate in my application. All the information I've found online about registration as an EU/EEA national is somewhat ambiguous. I do freelance work for various companies outside of Hungary, and own a sole proprietorship in Norway (I might consider registering as self employed here in the future). Can I apply for the "other" category, and in that case, what should I provide as "Documents for proof of purpose"? Or would it be better to register as a job seeker? Any advice would be highly appreciated- @amber77
I cannot tell you entirely how to do it. I'm British and I'm no longer an EU citizen (😡). Because of Brexit I had to go through the entire process of obtaining a residence permit. British people here at Brexit cut off date got an "Article 50 Withdrawal Agreement" residence permit, automatically issued. Previously I did not need that much paperwork and my previous employer took care of it but with Brexit, I had to organise it myself.
What I really want to tell you is that the EnterHungary site does not do anything at all. I had to go to Immigration in person with my HU wife as interpreter to get my application in. I had to take all my paperwork with me. That's even after I uploaded all the same stuff to EnterHungary. The person who dealt with me copied everything and did not even use my copies I made nor did she reference anything at EnterHungary. In other words, they don't look at it.
You should not need to go to Immigration as you're an EEA citizen and should be treated the same as a HU citizen. It doesn't matter why you are in Hungary, it's irrelevant as you're entitled to be here for as long as you want.
I think it your case, you should probably go with your paperwork (at least passport and real estate rental or purchase contract) to the Kormanyablak (Government Window) near where you live. Not all of them speak English but there's usually one person who can.
So you just need to go there to get an address card and maybe they'll also give you a foreigner's ID card.Â
You should not need a Residence Permit at all.
@amber77
p.s. let us know how you get on so others can try if they need to. Btw, they might give you another type of card - it's just like a registration card with no photo. This is what I used to have but it expired at Brexit and replaced with the RP.Â
This is the kind of card they used to give out - click .
@fluffy2560
Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply and for the advice!
I need to get a certificate from the landlord before I can do anything else, but I will post updates moving forward.
@fluffy2560
Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply and for the advice!
I need to get a certificate from the landlord before I can do anything else, but I will post updates moving forward. - @amber77
Yes, you need to show where you live hence the need for something from the landlord. Â
Usually the rental contract is enough.  You should have one of those anyway.
Thanks for promising to post your results!
@fluffy2560
Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply and for the advice!
I need to get a certificate from the landlord before I can do anything else, but I will post updates moving forward. - @amber77
Yes, you need to show where you live hence the need for something from the landlord.
Usually the rental contract is enough. You should have one of those anyway.
Thanks for promising to post your results! - @fluffy2560
Yep a rental contract should be enough, if it isn't, they will day what certificate they need and probably give the form to fill out.
@SimCityAT
The rental contract only has my partner's name on it, so we thought we'd get a separate piece of paper from the landlord confirming that I also live there.
@SimCityAT
The rental contract only has my partner's name on it, so we thought we'd get a separate piece of paper from the landlord confirming that I also live there. - @amber77
Ahhhh, ok. Will look into it
@SimCityAT
The rental contract only has my partner's name on it, so we thought we'd get a separate piece of paper from the landlord confirming that I also live there. - @amber77
Ahhhh, ok. Will look into it
@SimCityAT
The rental contract only has my partner's name on it, so we thought we'd get a separate piece of paper from the landlord confirming that I also live there. - @amber77
Are you married? That would be good enough to show that too just in case they don't like the landlord's paperwork.
They are often a funny bunch at the government offices. They seem to make stuff as they go along. I don't think they'll care that much as it's not as though you're an immigrant from some place the HU government doesn't like.
When we bought our house, we put it in both our names so Mrs Fluffy can do everything without me. In our rented place, it was all in my name but Mrs Fluffy did everything administrative. No-one ever questioned it.
@fluffy2560
We are not married, so I guess it wouldn't make much sense to show the contract with only his name on it. To get a residence permit as a non-EU national, he had to provide both the rental contract and some piece of paper about the landlord allowing him to live on the property. This is apparently a standard form that we're planning to request from the landlord with my name on it.
They are often a funny bunch at the government offices. They seem to make stuff as they go along. I don't think they'll care that much as it's not as though you're an immigrant from some place the HU government doesn't like.
This is what my partner tells me as well. I guess it will take some time to get used to how things are done in Hungary ðŸ˜
This is what my partner tells me as well. I guess it will take some time to get used to how things are done in Hungary 😠- @amber77
I guess your partner is Hungarian.
There are some really odd things here. If you get a decision from a government worker, that's it, it's done. It doesn't matter what the law says. If you read some of the legislation, it's laughable. It says things like, these are the rules and if we get them wrong, it's not our fault.
@amber77
Norwegian? You should have (implicited) funds. Nothing to complain, it is the EU.
I finally received my registration certificate and thought I'd share the process, in case it might be helpful to someone in a similar situation.
I sent the application through EnterHungary along with my bank statement, rental contract, and "Szálláshely bejelentése" (accommodation registration form signed by the landlord). A couple of weeks later I was requested to upload a document stating the purpose of my stay in Hungary. I wrote a brief letter saying that I'll be living with my partner, including his personal details and signature, and that I have income from remote work.
Then I had my first encounter with the Budapest postal service 😄 I found a paper slip in the mailbox about attempted delivery of my document. I was a bit worried as the deadline for picking it up from the post office had passed 5 days ago, but I went there anyway and the letter with my registration card was still there.
@amber77
Norwegian? You should have (implicited) funds. Nothing to complain, it is the EU. - @cdw057
Norway and the EU enjoy good and close relations, although Norway is not a member of the European Union. The Agreement on the European Economic Area (EEA) is the mainstay of our cooperation, and it ensures that Norway takes part in the EU internal market.
I finally received my registration certificate and thought I'd share the process, in case it might be helpful to someone in a similar situation.
I sent the application through EnterHungary along with my bank statement, rental contract, and "Szálláshely bejelentése" (accommodation registration form signed by the landlord). A couple of weeks later I was requested to upload a document stating the purpose of my stay in Hungary. I wrote a brief letter saying that I'll be living with my partner, including his personal details and signature, and that I have income from remote work.
Then I had my first encounter with the Budapest postal service 😄 I found a paper slip in the mailbox about attempted delivery of my document. I was a bit worried as the deadline for picking it up from the post office had passed 5 days ago, but I went there anyway and the letter with my registration card was still there. - @amber77
Thank you for sharing and updating us all.
I wrote a brief letter saying that I'll be living with my partner, including his personal details and signature, and that I have income from remote work.
- @amber77
Now you're a tax resident in Hungary. Not only you need to pay taxes here, you also need to register as a self-employed, or register a company, I'd consult a tax specialist ASAP!
@amber77
I do not know what freelancer you are, but when I came to Hungary I just created a KfT (my wife as employee), I maintained for the 7 years in Hungary and there are some real big tax advantages, company car, health insurance (for the part time employee and just giving myself the minimum salary).
Financially it worked quite well for me (and my wife).
Taxes are very acceptable.
You are Norwegian (in my mind all Norwegians are rich), why not buy a property?
I bought christof001 (on YouTube) for EUR 175 K. You have a Hungarian wife (a big plus I would say for integration and connections)
Lawyers are not needed I think, just a very good accounting company.
@cdw057
By the way I was no freelancer per say, just a company which gave advice.
You are Norwegian (in my mind all Norwegians are rich), why not buy a property?
I bought christof001 (on YouTube) for EUR 175 K. You have a Hungarian wife (a big plus I would say for integration and connections)
Lawyers are not needed I think, just a very good accounting company. - @cdw057
I wish that were the case 😀 I work in a creative field and I'm still working on building a sustainable income, I only started my business last year. So far I'm enjoying living in a country where the living expenses are lower, as I can focus on developing my skills and online client base without needing to take on a second job. So the next step will be finding a good tax advisor to help me figure everything out. Then, if we decide to settle down here permanently (my boyfriend is not from Hungary but here on a temporary residence permit), I might look into buying a property.
Thank you for sharing your experience with setting up a company and buying property in Hungary. I looked it up on YouTube and it's beautiful 😊
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