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anguyenpham wrote:

does anyone drink milk here in Vietnam? I occasionally drink Vinamilk that i can literally buy anywhere off the streets of VN.. They come in a bag and doesn't need to be refrigerated, it tastes ok but my MAIN concern is that shit expires 6 months later!! unlike back home where the milk expires within 2 weeks or so.. not sure if its "safe" or what not

Isn't bagged that stuff great, especially the way it practically explodes when you cut it open? ( even after refrigeration ).
听 Here's some info, ( sorry if I put you off drinking this s*** from now on ).

Ultra-high temperature processing, (less often) ultra-heat treatment (both abbreviated UHT), or ultra-pasteurization is the sterilization of food by heating it for an extremely short period, around 12 seconds, at a temperature exceeding 135掳C (275掳F), which is the temperature required to kill spores in milk.[1] The most common UHT product is milk, but the process is also used for fruit juices, cream, soy milk, yogurt, wine, soups, honey, and stews.[1] UHT milk was invented in the 1960s, and became generally available for consumption in the 1970s.[2]
A modern UHT processing line by Tetra Pak.

High heat during the UHT process can cause Maillard browning and change the taste and smell of dairy products.[3]

UHT milk has a typical shelf life of six to nine months, until opened. It can be contrasted with HTST pasteurization (high temperature/short time), in which the milk is heated to 72掳C (161.6掳F) for at least 15 seconds.

听 I only use it for my dog, mixed with an egg , good for tricking him to take his worm tabs, also for baking, scones, pikelets, scrambled eggs, etc.

Try 听

charmavietnam wrote:

Try 听

Is that like Lotabeer?

Drink Dalat Milk. Real milk, comes in a carton, expires in a few weeks like in US and doesn't taste like sugar water...

thanks for the suggestion milkybunny, i will drop by the local CoopMart and see if they have any for sale

yeah, i figured..I'm probably going to stay away from these milk bags

Vinamilk is a good brand in VN and I can guarantee that there is no need to concern about its quality or safety. The only thing you need to know is the differences between pasteurized milk and sterilized milk.

What you have bought is pasteurized milk. As it involves heating milk to high temperatures to kill harmful bacteria that can cause illness,听 apart from making milk safe to drink, pasteurisation increases the length of time it can be kept before it spoils without adding any additives.

The nutrient losses due to pasteurisation are so small, they are considered insignificant. Yet its taste will be less original than sterilized milk, which I believe you can try using Lothamilk or Dalatmilk. It should be stored in the refrigerator and expires within 7 days, as I remember. Sterilized milk is hard to be found at street shops but mostly in supermarket though.

In short, you now can rest assured and enjoy using VNM if you only concern about the safety. Also you can try TH True Milk if you prefer less sweetened milk.

Enjoy!

@bluenz:

May I know exactly the reason why you call pasteurized milk (e.g Vinamilk) s***?

The only thing I got from your response is that it can change the taste and smell of product (insignificant though). Milk that needs to be stored in refrigaretor and expires quickly are raw milk or closer to raw milk (sterilized milk) as it is heated under lower temperature compare to pasteurized milk. It has been proven that the high temperatures is to kill harmful bacteria that can cause illness, thus making it more safety to drink, especially for kids. Pasteurized milk is also more convenient as it does not need to be kept cool and lasts for several months.

You can check out the article called "The danger of Raw milk" on fda[.] gov for more info. Some good references of how pasteurized milk is good for health are also included.

Interesting topic after all.

ChloeLe wrote:

Vinamilk is a good brand in VN and I can guarantee that there is no need to concern about its quality or safety. The only thing you need to know is the differences between pasteurized milk and sterilized milk.

What you have bought is pasteurized milk. As it involves heating milk to high temperatures to kill harmful bacteria that can cause illness,听 apart from making milk safe to drink, pasteurisation increases the length of time it can be kept before it spoils without adding any additives.

The nutrient losses due to pasteurisation are so small, they are considered insignificant. Yet its taste will be less original than sterilized milk, which I believe you can try using Lothamilk or Dalatmilk. It should be stored in the refrigerator and expires within 7 days, as I remember. Sterilized milk is hard to be found at street shops but mostly in supermarket though.

In short, you now can rest assured and enjoy using VNM if you only concern about the safety. Also you can try TH True Milk if you prefer less sweetened milk.

Enjoy!

I'm sure I had a Vinamilk sachet, but not now, I have a" Love'in听 Farm ' sachet now, it has printed on it, " s峁筧 t瓢啤i ti锚t trung " which Google translate probably stuffed up as usual, translating it means UHT, milk, which I then Googled , then copied and pasted to here. So that is exactly the reason why I called it UHT milk and not听 pasteurized milk (e.g Vinamilk) s***?

I'm actually curious about these Vietnamese milk brands, how much sugar is added to it? It tastes too sweet and watered down.

milkybunnyHCM wrote:

I'm actually curious about these Vietnamese milk brands, how much sugar is added to it? It tastes too sweet and watered down.

Try the unsweetened stuff.听 听kh么ng c贸 膽瓢峄漬g

milkybunnyHCM wrote:

I'm actually curious about these Vietnamese milk brands, how much sugar is added to it? It tastes too sweet and watered down.

Since target consumers of most Vietnamese milk brands are kids, normally they add quite a lot of sugar. Yet as the concern of health arising, there are 3 diffrent choices you can make: sweetened, less sweetened and plain (unsweetened). Please refer to what printed on the package.

If you like soy milk, apart from some branded products, you can also try homemade ones. They are very cheap and quite popular in VN. Also you can tell the seller to add sugar as per your recipe.

ChloeLe wrote:

milkybunnyHCM wrote:

I'm actually curious about these Vietnamese milk brands, how much sugar is added to it? It tastes too sweet and watered down.

Since target consumers of most Vietnamese milk brands are kids, normally they add quite a lot of sugar. Yet as the concern of health arising, there are 3 diffrent choices you can make: sweetened, less sweetened and plain (unsweetened). Please refer to what printed on the package.

If you like soy milk, apart from some branded products, you can also try homemade ones. They are very cheap and quite popular in VN. Also you can tell the seller to add sugar as per your recipe.

I'd still go with Dalat Milk, even unsweetened it tastes watery. But some have said that's hard to find outside of cities...