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Question on Visa D

jeanmandredeix

We are currently getting paperwork together for the retirement Visa D but am a bit concerned on my husbands application as I am in receipt of state pension but he only has company pension for now. They seem to want a state pension? Am I right? Will he need to delay his application until he receives it? I hope not.

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Sleep Near

@jeanmandredeix

You are correct. Bulgaria is reluctant to accept a business type of pension such as a 401(k). You can obtain a D visa, assuming your government pension meets the minimum income requirement for Bulgaria, which is around 700 USD. After you have your D visa you can apply for a D visa for you husband under the family reunification option. I strongly suggest that you pay the small fee that an immigration attorney will charge to ensure that you and your husband achieve your goal of immigration to Bulgaria.

gwynj

@jeanmandredeix

I would be surprised if they would not accept a company pension, so I encourage you to apply. Even if they didn't, it's not a huge issue as you can then apply under Family Reunification, as suggested by @Sleep Near.

JimJ

The D visa is an interesting thing: given that Two-tier Starmer seems determined to punish UK pensioners for their temerity in living so long, one wonders if a time will come when a UK state pension will no longer be sufficient to qualify for BG residency... 😯

jeanmandredeix

@JimJ

Yes, I agree. It concerns me how he is treating everyone but they certainly don’t like pensioners and seem to want to ensure they won’t receive a pension. I read yesterday that they are saying about 80 for retirement! I take it that they have no faith that young people will be working?

janemulberry

Jean, I get my OAP pension before hubby (he gets a small work pension but sadly took bad advice before we met so it's a fraction what it should have been and not enough to qualify), so we'll be doing what SleepNear suggested. I get the D visa first, then once I have applied for residency, we'll apply under family reunification before him.


They should accept a company pension if it's over the Bg minimum wage, but doing it as family reunification might be easier for your hubby, too.


I have the same concerns about pensions being stopped or frozen for UK pensioners who move out of the UK. It's already happened for pensioners in many Commonwealth countries, like Australia and New Zealand. What's stopping them at present for those of us moving to the EU is the Withdrawal Agreement, which specifies that the pension should be paid as if we were living in the UK (less add-ons like Winter Fuel Allowance, Pension Credit, etc).


Personally I think it would be a very foolish thing for any government to do. Freeze pensions so pensioners can't afford to live abroad, they return to get their full pension, they regain the right to use the NHS and get all the extras, it would cost the country far more than paying the full pension to us abroad and keeping oldies out of the UK!

mickg

There are reciprocal agreements in place with many countries regards to state pensions, don't think Australia, new Zealand and maybe even Canada have those agreements with uk.

janemulberry

Right. They used to, but don't now. My understanding is that anyone entitled to a UK pension who moves to those countries is likely to find their pension permanently frozen at the rate it was when they left the UK. And anyone who has spent part of their working life in one of those countries may discover they lose some of their pension when they leave the UK.


I worked and paid tax in Australia for the first 16 years of my working life. Those are recognised as contributing years for a UK OAP, because the reciprocal agreement was in force then. But only if I stay in the UK. When I move to Bulgaria, I will lose that portion of my pension.  To compensate for that, I've overpaid extra years of UK NICs for years when I wasn't working for the entire year or wasn't earning enough for it to count as a full year. I won't get any benefit from those extra payments if I stay in the UK, as I'd already be getting the maximum pension. But when I leave the UK, I hope those extra years will go a little way towards making up for the Aussie years I'll lose.

mickg

Could you be entitled to an aussie pension.

My father was entitled to uk pension as his work live mostly uk but also got small Irish pension having worked few years when younger.

I know it's not same situation, just don't seem fair to lose aussie years.